Bill Covert

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  JW Elder fired from bank for privacy violation regarding fellow JW employee

  by Zoos in

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  "thou shalt spy on and report your brothers and sisters to hq.".

  https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/local/industrial-court-finds-there-are-limits-to-freedom-of-religion/article_5a485b94-a327-11e7-9c32-57b15184bc6a.html.

  editor's note: due to the nature of this story we've changed the names of the parties involved.

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  the Wt article is Sept. 1 1987 "A Time to Speak When" . Look up my posts on this site.

  A researcher Googled the name of the swindler the subject of my posts and this web site popped up. The swindler had to appear before the Judicial committee for swindling another widow out of $100,000, evidently found guilty and is to make restitution of $40.00 a month. He was not disfellowshipped as he was able to show that the court records used against him were derived from this web site. So he got a hundred thousand the widow gets $40.00. If you Google my name Bill Covert there will pop up my name minus the swindlers name. Then the opening sentence of my post on this site, plus a snide reference as to post on JW Survey. All having to do with Lev.5:1 and Wt article "A Time to Speak When".

  You might want to read my posts.
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  Documentary

  by stillin in

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  is anybody else here watching the pbs documentary about the viet nam war?

  it's exceedingly well put together and informative... i am streaming it at my own convenience from the pbs app but i notice that each installment has an expiration date so if you don't start watching, you may miss it altogether and it would be your loss.. i had no idea....

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  Yes I am watching. Oliver Stone did a history documentary which got into the 'hows' and 'whys' it got started. Both show the mind sets that got the country into the conflict and the face saving that kept the nation in the war.

  I have spent the week reflecting on the same thought processes repeating its self with in the WTB&TS management. As they are maneuvering in preparation of molestation sanctions ahead of them.

  I am one of those felons who were prevented from taking community service in lieu of military induction as it was a violation of christian conscience, per WTB&TS. Still not happy about that
  
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  My Story

  by Lee Elder in

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  this is the first of a multi-part article that tells my story, and how ajwrb got started.. https://www.openmindsfoundation.org/saving-thousand-lives-year-reform-watchtowers-policy-blood-transfusions-part-one/.

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  A ER Doc friend of mine [raised a JW] told me every hospital ER room has the JW blood. Not for the doctors benefit but to cut time wastage because of uneducated JW patients having to halt treatment to go ask their elders if treatment is permissible.
  
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  Oz, Down Under, thanks for...

  by stillin in

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  judith durham!

  men at work!

  the proclaimers (right?

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  Banjo Patterson Waltzing Matilda, The Man from Snowy River.
  
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  This is why the Elders should always call the WT society or personal attorney before ever talking to the Police.

  by StoneWall in

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  this is probably going to unnerve some on here or make them uncomfortable.we always hear, why didn't the elders call the cops first instead of the wt society (lawyers/attorneys).

  in cases of child molestation or other incidents.this video is why and if you're smart you'll follow their example.i'm not taking the wtbts side on this just so you know in advance because i do not agree with the two witness rule at all.but be that as it may,this is by far the best lawyer/attorney and law professor i've ever heard on the subject of why you should never talk to the police and always let an investigation be made through counsel.this is why in the usa you have the right to remain silent when talking to police/authorities but even more important what the fifth amendment really entails and why it would behoove us all to understand what can happen even if you are totally innocent and have nothing to hide but how things can go horribly wrong.if i ever have to go to court for anything i can only hope that i got a lawyer as competent as this one the vid is approx 46 minutes long but well worth investing that time because if you had to talk to a lawyer it would cost you a lot to receive what this professor covers in this.the majority is from the law professor and the remaining minutes are of a former police captain/investigator with his insights and opinions.and just to be clear, i'm not suggesting that the elders not call the police because they should in cases of child molestation but rather they better get legal advice to protect themselves so that they don't have to answer for the wtbts decisions.look how many former (ex) elders we have on sites like this one and others and i'm so happy they got free of the wt but also they didn't get in trouble by accidentally saying/doing the wrong thing.all of us can benefit by following this advice in the video and i hope you enjoy it and to know what your rights arehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xyp7ee.

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  I carry a personal liability insurance policy because of my interactions with the WTBS. I have one million dollars for attorney's fees if they come after me.

  Every church elder should have such a policy to protect him being held accountable for WTBS policy.
  
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  Canada starts fight-back against bloodless surgery?

  by darkspilver in

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  i'm sure orphancrow will be able to fill in the details for us.. front page news with picture all over the canadian globe and mail newspaper today.. with major double-page spread across the whole of pages 8 and 9 in the newspaper's front section.. globe and mail, tuesday 8 august 2017.. the patient, a 70-year-old man with high-risk prostate cancer, was a jehovah’s witness.. his religion was one of the reasons he decided to undergo surgery at st. joseph’s healthcare in hamilton, home to a robot named da vinci whose steady metal hands can remove a prostate with scant risk of the blood transfusions forbidden by the man’s faith.. on a recent afternoon, the patient laid unconscious on an operating table as surgeon bobby shayegan and his team plunged a camera and three robotically controlled surgical instruments through small incisions in his abdomen.. dr. shayegan settled himself in front of a three-dimensional screen, clasped the two joysticks that controlled the tools inside his patient’s pelvis and proceeded to cut, cauterize and stitch until he freed the man’s prostate, pulling it out through one of the original incisions.. there was next to no blood.. “that was routine,” dr. shayegan said afterward, holding the plum-sized gland that he and the robot had removed together.

  ...in its first real ruling on a robotic surgery, the expert committee that advises ontario on which new health technologies to pay for said there was no good evidence that robot-assisted radical prostatectomy is any better than conventional open surgery when it comes to controlling cancer or preserving urinary and sexual function.. the panel said the robot’s other benefits – patients have smaller incisions, lose less blood, suffer less pain and leave the hospital sooner – were not significant enough to justify spending, on average, an extra $3,224 a case, a figure that does not include the millions that wealthy benefactors have spent buying the machines for canadian hospitals.

  https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/health-and-fitness/health/the-fight-for-robots-in-canadas-operatingrooms/article35897282/.

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  I went the robot, at a leading cancer center "City of Hope" LA Ca.

  The blood issue is no major issue in this type of sugary.
  

  Incontinence is the major issue, how much the plumbing leaks after operation. The robot is very precise, using magnification, air pressure to create space for minimal amount of tissue to be cut. The movements are very controlled through what ever setting the operator sets. A major determining factor of sugary success lies in the patient and how serious he takes his pelvic floor exercises.
  

  This is just personal opinion. A surgeon told me sugary is one half science, one half art. A highly skilled surgeon is just that. The robot can take a good surgeon and make him competitive with a higher skilled surgeon. Sugary has three factors 1; how healthy we have maintained our body, 2; skill of surgeon, 3; how serious we do our rehab. Personally for me the robot was a much wiser decision then the Urologist I knew from the gym.
  
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  Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1

  by Bill Covert in

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  greetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.

  i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.

  i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.

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  John the Baptist huh, if that be true than there is someone coming behind me of whom works at a much higher pay grade level than I do. When he appears he has the ability to open eyes far beyond the level than I ever could. Truthfully where he went with Lev.5:1 I only know enough to get myself in trouble, and you will learn about it at the same time I do.

  Lev.5:1 has nothing to do with child molestation's. It is strictly a courtroom proceeding. Google commentary on Lev.5:1 go to Bible Hub if you are sharp enough and you have read my post with the mind to understand you will see something very interesting.

  But realize I am only the fore runner of the one who is packing the real "Thunder"
  
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  Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1

  by Bill Covert in

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  greetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.

  i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.

  i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.

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  Vienne That would be a pleasant surprise. I got WTBS on one side and alcohol on the other and I don't belong to either. And I am too afraid I would find losers if I did family tree.
  
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  Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1

  by Bill Covert in

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  2. scandals

  greetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.

  i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.

  i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.

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  Listener The matter which was a $4.250M unregistered securities swindle went to the District Attorneys office, which at that time had posted in newspaper that due to budget issues they would no longer be doing white collar crime, only violent crime [white collar crime is way more expensive to prove a case than murder]. They sent the case to the SEC, the Feds sent it the State Dept of Corporations, The Dept of Corp. only operates in Civil Court hence only has power to fine, no prison time. The swindler in my story had an employee take the fall for him. Also at that time the elder abuse laws were not what they are today.
  

  The WTBS has a structure to handle these types of issues the Service Dept. Sitting on the Northern California desk was a Merton Campbell [check this web site Randall Waters post as to the Red Bluff molester"Henderson" to realize what a fuck up he was as to competence, he cost the WTBS a lot of money over that screw up] some how Merton Campbell got pissed when I called him a "servant on a horse" Eccl.10: 7 when he assigned Ray Dale the writer of the prospectus to investigate a $4.250M fraud. That one move opened the way for a deception of the Service Dept by elders who were investors into Ray Dale's schemes, the interesting part of that deception was a JW Patent Attorney who was turned by Ray Dale for the fact he to had a part in the scheme. The Lev.5:1 [per 1987 Wt. article "A Time to Speak When?" commentary on Lev.5:1] part is two letters of criminal investigation that elders of another congregation refused to forward to the Service dept thus allow Merton Campbell the opportunity to correct his error. I mentioned in the original post that I was asked by Barbara Anderson if per chance I was the man in Northern California who wrote the most offensive letters of anyone in the USA during her time in Bethel and that is a bingo! I also wrote those letters mentioned in the 2013 "Human Apostate talk". Check the recent topic where the question was asked, Did anyone ever remove a elder? Sir I am one tough SOB!

  If you were to take the time to open your new RNWT to Lev.5:1 you will see something brand new never commented on by the WTBS or any apostate web sites, just me.

  Now all you need to do is figure out how it fits to the lessons learned in the movie "Spotlight" and SNAP and you will be up to speed on just how important that one little change in the church's own Bible really is.

  Bill
  
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  Mystery Letters of "Human Apostate" talk 2013 summer convention and its connection to Lev.5:1

  by Bill Covert in

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  greetings from redding calif. my name is bill covert.

  i am one of those viet nam war felons for having to refuse communtiy service in lieu of military induction per direct instructions from ny, so i have been around for a while.

  i am the writer of the letters mentioned in the human apostate talk of the 2013 conventions.

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  I need to make a correction and a sincere apology. About three years ago when Barbara and I were getting to know each other she had some traveling to do I offered to help on the expenses. She made it quit clear that she does not accept donations so as to stay clear of personal gain issues. I said I would send her something to help with traveling expenses, she had no idea at what the amount would be. This was prior to a project we came to work on.
  

  This post I did yesterday was a very emotional post in that I am at the very last point as to whether I am actually going to literally be able to save a life of a son. He is the reality of the wickedness and evilness of the church shunning policy, unfortunately that policy has the power to kill. There is a very special something in the works that has the power to break down shunning barriers with in families. I have been waiting on that project just like in the movies as to will the cavalry arrive in time to save the day. I did not word things pertaining to Barbara accurately for that I do apologize. She works very hard to keep her act above any reproach and I muddied the waters.

  Bill Covert